美國業餘買賣吉他經驗談

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  1. S.Steven

    S.Steven Member

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    我一個熟識在美國開樂器行的朋友. 他也說現在的2手價格都很低. 他跟我說很多人開的2手價格還停留在2007年. 那些都不值得買. 2007年一間房子要45萬美金左右,現在跌到剩32萬上下.
     
  2. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    美國房價要看地點. 中古或古董吉他要看什麼琴. 價格雖然低迷. 有的比目前的房價保值.

    奇怪的是, 最近半年我在Craigslist上自己賣琴. 價格再低都無人問津. 在吉他店寄售的卻賣掉不少把, 價格倒還可以.
     
  3. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    Olympus XZ-1: 由儉入奢易

    最近在亞馬遜網站Amazon的閃電限時限量促銷很便宜的買到我第一台HD照相機, 是日本Olympus 的XZ-1型號. 全新的只要$279, 一般市價$350左右. 台灣不知多少錢?

    我年紀老後對現代的科技不很注意, 這已經是我最好的相機. 發現可以把吉他明細近照的很清楚, 像這把McNaught的老虎的琴頸鑲貝圖案過去無法顯出. 現在看的很清楚. 相當興奮, 一些吉他照片將來要重新拍了

    和過去Nikon Coolpix 拍的照片比較如下:

    Coolpix 無法近照, 會模糊掉. 只能這麼近.

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    XZ-1 近照可以照的很清楚.

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    XZ-1照錄影帶HD Video的效果沒有想像的好, 是否我燈光不夠?

    網友們有否用過? 有何意見或建議?

    :)
     
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  4. MGF

    MGF Member

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    XZ-1只有720P的HD錄影(1280X720)
    畫質不夠精美是很正常的
    當然太暗對任何攝錄影機都是考驗
    有空可以看一下介紹文
    http://www.mobile01.com/newsdetail.php?id=10350

    建議沙漠叔可以在有採光的室內拍照


    另外
    這個鑲貝實在太過分了(笑)
     
  5. vcvca

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    網路的比價性高....同款吉他, 找A吉他 或 B吉他,一瞬間就可到了

    所以沒有殺到底,是不會出手的,而且沒看到真品,還是有被騙的風險

    不過現場就不一樣了,跟新品擺在一起.....保養到狀況如新
    卻是幾折的價格而已,很容易就出手的 (親身看到 誘惑力更大:D)
     
  6. vcvca

    vcvca New Member

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    所以
    不是只有台灣的琴難賣:D
     
  7. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    太感謝MGF了﹐你真熱心。

    這個吉姆林的解說非常的清楚﹐非常有用。

    剛剛從優生美地回來才看到﹐住舊金山親戚家。這些新招數要回家好好的研究才能用到。

    用XZ-1 照的:

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    親戚用iPad照的比較清楚. 影片中可以看到沙漠叔和沙漠嫂。;)


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    :)
     
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  8. 大衛

    大衛 Member

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    沙漠兄的介紹真是精彩動人

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  9. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    謝謝大衛.

    聯邦大掌櫃薄難計Bernanke前天又放出QE3, 鈔票一直印, 將來美國勢必有通貨膨脹問題. 房子不保值, 不如買高檔琴. 沙漠叔又要開始買二手琴了. 有好故事再和大家分享.

    ;)
     
  10. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    便宜的墨西哥製Jazz Bass

    昨天在Craigslist分類廣告看到一把很便宜的Fender Jazz Bass, 一般墨西哥製作的二手JB貝士行情在$300左右, 這把還連硬盒子只要$250. 而且賣家在我住所不到十五分鐘. 廣告說有些小擦傷, 但我看不太明顯. 1998年(序號MN8XXXX)製造, 14年的琴看起來相當新. 試彈一下覺得不錯就決定買了. 我打算把高價的Lakland Joe Osborne Signature 貝士賣掉, 用這把便宜的貝斯練習用. 如果將來改變主意, 應該不難賣掉或換琴.

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    和賣家尼克聊聊自己喜歡的曲風. 發現29歲彈藍調的尼克居然也知道投機者The Ventures和影子樂隊The Shadows. 而且喜歡自己拼湊吉他. 他跑去房間拿個琴身和琴頸說他原先打算拼湊一把影子樂隊主奏Hank Marvin Strat 吉他. 我告訴他我現在用的就是Hank Marvin Signature Strat. 我們開始聊這把吉他的規格.

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    聊天中得知尼克向他媽媽租這個房子, 但他媽媽失業經濟發生困難, 房子將被銀行沒收拍賣. 尼克急著搬家有些吉他音箱要趕快賣掉, 又是個經濟不景氣的犧牲者. 尼克臨走前給我張他的樂隊演奏的示範CD.

    第二天尼克發郵件給我說如果你想要的話, 他可以拼湊起來用零件成本價賣我. 我告訴他我要考慮看看.

    無牌的零件拼湊起來的吉他不好轉賣, 除非音色出眾特別合適自己彈奏的曲風, 將來要留著自己彈. 再便宜也不要買. 我大概不會出手.

    :)
     
  11. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    新的江湖騙術老千手法

    大家不要以為PayPal有保證, 買家用PayPal付款比較安全. 不見得...

    新的騙術之一:

    你在Craigslist, eBay或任何拍賣場賣吉他, 買家標了或同意用PayPal付款, 賣家指定用他的貨運公司來拿貨, 運費他付. 你也如數收到PayPal付款. 就通知拿貨. 貨給了他的假貨運公司. 也給了收據. 結果買家向PayPal索賠說沒有收到東西, 賣家不回復.... PayPal就退他錢, 再從你的
    帳戶扣回. 你和PayPal吵卻無法提供出貨證明, 因為收據根本是假的.

    PayPal和eBay一般都站在買家那邊, 有些賣家氣得不用他們. 最穩當的是用銀行電匯 wire transfer, 向銀行確定收到錢再出貨. 支票兌現後都可以取消, 銀行是不負責的. 用知名度高的貨運公司, 例如美國的UPS, FedEx, USPS... 台灣我就不清楚了.

    總之江湖騙術老千手法變幻無常, 大家小心.

    :eek:
     
  12. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    向鄰居買音箱: 1968 Fender Bassman & Cabinet

    買前多試, 免得後悔..

    在芝加哥免費分類廣告Craigslist看到一個賣1968 Fender Bassman 加 Cabinet整套音箱的廣告, 看來外表很新, 而且價格相當便宜. 最興奮的是在我住的同一個小鎮, 電話的前三號碼和我的相同, 應該是很近. 打電話去約時間見面, 居然發現是不遠幾步路叫Mike的鄰居 可是在我們住了30多年的小社區街道聚會Block Party從來沒有聽過他, 有點納悶是何許人也?

    "I have a 1968 Fender Bassman Silverface amp and its original matched speaker cabinet (that houses two 12 inch speakers). Both the amp & cabinet are in very good shape for their age. I just replaced the original speakers with two brand new Peavey Pro 12 speakers(with ported magnets that sound great). I have the original Fender speakers (which are of course worn out) in case you are into rebuilding. I want $xxx for the works. I wont respond to emails because of all the spammers. call (xxx) xxx-xxxx to see them."

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    第二天中午開車前往他家, 不要幾分鐘. 是在我們家後院樹林裡的人家, 房子不大但佔地有兩英畝地, 開車進去的車道都要100公尺長, 心想冬天用我的小除雪機除雪可要一個鐘頭以上. 門外面放了一部摩托車, 想像這位老兄是飛車黨的模樣....

    出乎意外, 來開門的是一位坐輪椅長髮長的很酷的中年人, 和他先聊一下, Mike搬來這裡有16年了. 不幸被卡車撞傷, 手腳殘廢了. 後來又和老婆離婚. 像隱士一樣的深居簡出, 我們散步從來沒有見過他. Mike年輕時是專業吉他手, 參加藍調樂隊常公開表演在芝加哥音樂界相當活躍. 右手殘廢後就不再彈琴, 改吹藍調口琴.

    1968年的Bassman雖然是Silverface還是用Blackface的規格, 左邊的兩個插孔是貝士用的, 右邊兩個插孔是吉他用的. 我特別帶了Fender 的吉他和貝士來試.

    吉他的音色相當的棒, 雖然沒有我的67年Bandmaster音箱安靜, 但音色非常清脆Clean, 低音貝士比較低沉. 我連上我帶來的Gomez G-String Reverb Tank, 彈起60年代的沖浪曲音色真是棒. 覺得音色比我的Bandmaster還要好.

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    Mike聽到我的Reverb Tank音色, 問我是什麼牌子, 怎麼音色效果如此的好? 我告訴他是加州的一位工匠Gomez手工做的, 價格不菲比他要賣的音箱還貴, 而且現在他不做已經買不到了. Mike說讓他試試藍調口琴的音色. 雖然短短的一小段, 可以聽出他的功力.

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    看看後面的序號的確是1968年後期的產品, 唯一我比較不喜歡的是音箱相當高大而笨重. 原裝喇叭換掉成Peavey Pro 12 speakers, 但原來的喇叭會一起附上, 有興趣可以去翻修. 我幾乎決定要買了....

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    且慢, 這種衝動式的購買決定最危險, 過去吃過不少虧. 還是冷靜的再試試我帶來的Fender Jazz Bass. 彈了幾個音, 音色不錯啊, 可是慢慢地有雜音出來, 而且逐漸的消音. 我覺得Mike改裝的Peavey Pro 12 speakers 喇叭只適合吉他不能用做貝士喇叭. 太可惜了.

    告訴他我要想一下. 基本上我不會買了. 我需要的是一個可以同時插吉他貝士演奏60年代沖浪曲, 貝士音色比59 Bassman RI 好的的音箱. 能彈沖浪吉他的音箱我已經有 Bandmaster 和 Vibroverb 了.

    看到房間裡掛了許多畫, 我問Mike是不是他畫的? 他笑笑的點頭, 還拿出一本芝加哥有名的畫家 Kandinsky 的畫冊說他的畫風是由他而來的.

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    一開始Mike講到被卡車撞傷的意外, 老婆離婚時故意把他心愛的吉他拿走, 似乎有點忿忿不平.... 後來看到我對他的繪畫作品有興趣時, 眼中卻閃露出喜悅得意的光芒. 馬上去拿出那本畫冊給我們看, 還不厭其煩的解釋....

    買賣吉他音箱時, 不要忽略物質以外的人情. 世間人事也許冷漠渾濁, 看到玫瑰花不要忘記停下來享受它的芬芳.

    :)
     
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  13. Desert Surfer

    Desert Surfer Well-Known Member

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    1961 Fender Jazzmaster

    有位網友PM問我如何辨認他的61 Jazzmaster 是否原裝?

    我不是專家, 把我的回復和在網上整理一些資料. 放上來和大家一起分享討論. 其他行家或有興趣的朋友可以一起參加討論. 分享經驗交換心得是論壇的最大目的.

    1) 儘量用目視法和其他的真品比較.

    1961年 Pre CBS 的Jazzmaster , 如果是原版未改裝, 價格不菲. 即使是Refinish, 價格也不低. 外型是次要的, 音色最重要. 看看PU有沒有被換過? 拼湊琴價格就有差了.

    這是賣我Bandmaster音箱的人在賣的古董64年 JM, 你可以比較看看.

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    2) 拆開內部: 參考網上這位行家的分析

    http://home.provide.net/~cfh/jazzma58.html

    [FONT=verdana,arial,helv,helvetica][SIZE=-1]<center> [SIZE=+2]Inside a 1958 Fender Jazzmaster[/SIZE]
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    • The Jazzmaster was introduced by Fender in 1958. What follows is an inside view of a late 1958/early 1959 Fender Jazzmaster. The most notible thing about 1958 to the summer of 1959 Jazzmasters is the metal anodized pickguard. The pickguard is amazingly thick, at about .100 of an inch. This guard provides good looks, and sheilding to boot. Unfortunately starting in the summer of 1959, Fender changed to a white/black/white/tortoise celluloid pickguard (except on certain custom color Jazzmasters, which had a white/black/white celluloid pickguard instead). I'm not sure why they made this change. The celluloid pickguards did wear better though. As you can see in the pictures below, there is a large wear spot in the middle of the metal pickguard.
    A late 1958/early 1959 Fender Jazzmaster, serial number 34xxx (on the neck plate).
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    Below is a picture of the Jazzmaster body with the pickguard removed. Note the pickups stay in the body when you remove the pickguard. You can also see the extensive brass shielding used inside the Jazzmaster's body routes. This body route shielding can be easily removed from the body. The entire pickguard, pickups, and route shields can be removed without unsoldering anything! For this reason, you can't assume a jazzmaster has it's original finish just because the solder joints are untouched.

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    Here is the front view of the metal anodized pickguard. Note the wear spots. This happened because the front (only) of the original pickguard was clear coated with lacquer, to help prevent oxidation and to increase smoothness, gloss and buffability (a similar thing was done on 1950 to 1954 Fender Broadcaster/Telecaster black pickguards). Reissue anodized metal pickguards aren't clearcoated, so they are easy to spot (Mighty Might made a bunch of really nice anodize Strat pickguards in the 1970s that look very original, except they don't have the lacquer coating on the front). Also note the switch tip. Until about 1961, Fender used bakelite style amber switch tips, just like Gibson (yes Gibson-aholics, that switch tip would look and work perfectly on your 1957 Les Paul goldtop!). The volume and tone knobs are the exact same knob as used on Stratocasters of that time period.

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    Here are the volume and tone pots. The pots have a source/date code of 137 850. That means CTS (137), and 1958, the 50th week (850). See how the pickguard was sanded by the hole for the bridge. This accomodates the bridge grounding wire, allowing ground continuity between the bridge and the pickguard.

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    This pictures shows the two roll off mini-pots and switch from the bottom side of the pickguard. These roll off pots allow the player to "pre set" a tone, then turn the tone controls completely off or on with the toggle switch (one tone roll off pot for each pickup).

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    The "nail holes" used to hold the body when being painted. A finish nail is driven into the body at several positions to act as "feet" to elevate the body during finish spraying, and to allow it to dry. Later the nails are removed and discarded. The nail holes should always be evident and NOT filled with paint! If the nail holes are missing or have paint in them, the body was refinished. Fender used this nail technique until about fall of 1964. See here for more details on Fender paint techniques.

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    The Jazzmaster tremolo as used throughout this model's history. The body route is quite deep. The bottom side of the metal tremolo system is shown here too.

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    The top (face) side of the Jazzmaster trem. The hole is where the (exceedingly long) tremolo arm is mounted.

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    The underside of the Jazzmaster pickguard. Can you see the pencil signature between the two pickups on the pickguard?

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    The Jazzmaster pickups. The pickups are big, but the are not very thick (deep). The pickups measure at just under 8k ohms. So compared to a Strat or Tele (usually around 5.5k), they are hotter. But in reality, they don't sound that way.

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    The Jazzmaster bridge. Note the small threaded screws at the bottom of the bridge's long anchor studs. This allows for course adjustment of the bridge height. Then each individual saddle is adjustable for height and intonation.

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    The Jazzmaster peghead decal. Note the "offset contour body" portion is connected to the logo portion (unlike the Stratocaster, where these are two discrete decals).

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    3) 試試音色, 是否有標準的古典JM 音色?

    我喜歡的投機者的兩首是Bob Bogle 用 59 或60 的Jazzmaster 彈奏 Walk Don't Run 和 Morgen. PU 選擇鈕放在中間, 音箱可能是用 Bassman head 加 Fender outboard Reverb unit

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    Morgen
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    希望對這位網友和其他喜歡Jazzmaster的朋友有幫助.

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  14. garage1147

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    幾年前剛加入的時候看過,剛剛又都再讀了一次,真的是很好的經驗分享!不知道版主最近順利嗎?哈哈
     
  15. bigcat2017

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    以前潛水的時候也拜讀不少, 沙漠叔很久沒更新了呀
     

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