七弦(含以上)吉他player討論...

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  1. julian

    julian New Member

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    嘿嘿~~~
    小弟很自私的PO這個話題,因為七弦琴快到手了,而且上次rock99員外質疑我是不是要去搞nu metal,個人不甚苟同,所以很有興趣想知道哪些artists在使用超過六弦的吉他,另外規格也可以討論喔~~

    小弟才疏學淺,懂不多,先講幾個我知道的:
    Korn
    Fear Factory
    Steve Vai
    John Petrucci
    Paul Gilbert
    Rob Johnson
    Rusty Cooley
    Tony MacAlpine
     
  2. 大鬍子

    大鬍子 鼓版版工

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    Deftones的Stephen Carpenter
    Aghora的Santiago Dobles
     
  3. 大鬍子

    大鬍子 鼓版版工

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    岩石99老大∼我是不知道呂秀齡是不是呂秀蓮的妹妹,不過阿齡用的琴你都知道,
    想必你也常常逛他的官方網站。

    我只知道阿扁當初其實是想找呂秀齡來當副總統,因為阿扁是玩古箏的。
    他現在用的是ESP custom shop的古箏,當然是綠色的,還有搖桿。
    舊的那把就送給我了。當年一同蹲苦窯時聽他演奏綠島小夜曲真是感人至深。
    下次一起帶阿扁去你家參觀介紹給你認識,不過你那些藍色的橘色的PRS最好先收起來,
    免得被阿扁砸了,我可不負責。
     
  4. ssssss

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    哈哈哈哈,肚子好痛喔,不知她那把Jackson是接Fender、Marshall還是Mesa的.....呵呵!
     
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    [] JEM.ZAX [] Active Member

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    George Lynch !!!!!!!!!!

    附設馬達,一個PU包全部..^^
    還第七弦High A勒,手不被割傷??!!

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    This guitar was Lynch's first attempt at a 7-string design built by ESP. It featured a 25.5" scale length and instead of an extra low-B string (like Steve Vai's), it was designed to have a high-A string. The specially made 7-string pickup was designed and wound by ESP especially for this guitar.

    What made this design even more radical was the idea for the pickup to move electronically forward or backward (toward the bridge) via an electronic motor. To control this motion, a concentric poteniometer (a knob within a knob) was installed. While the outside knob controlled the guitar's volume, the inside knob controlled the motion of the pickup. When pushed in, the pickup was activated. Rolling this knob forward or backward controlled the movement of the pickup to the neck or back toward the bridge.

    Two more attempts were made at this design. This particular guitar was present at the studio during the recording of "Wicked Sensation" 1989-90 but was never featured on any of the tracks.

    "I swear to God, it was before I even knew Vai had a 7-string," says Lynch.

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    This is the second version of Lynch's 7-string guitar built by ESP. While the first version of the guitar featured a 25.5" scale length, this version had a shorter scale at 24". The idea here was like a banjo...to be able to accommodate the high-A string being tuned higher.

    The first version of this guitar featured a motor in it that was too large and too noisy. In this one, the motor is smaller, causing the pickup to move too slowly. Another miss with that idea. Pictured here is the prototype as it existed in 1991.

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    This is the third and final version of the George's design of a 7-string guitar built by ESP. Picking up where the second version left off, this is identical to it's previous version except for a different neck and a HipShot low-E detuner.

    "One thing that I had a prblem with is the seven strings. In the heat of the moment when I'm playing, I look at seven strings and I go, "Wait, where am I at?' Chords too. I had them make me a fretboard with a maple strip under the 7th (high-A) string and then move the dots between just the G and D strings. At first glance, you can see the 6-string configuration, and the seventh string is kind of over there added on," said Lynch in 1991.

    This guitar was made in 1991 and is in the "where is it now" file.
     
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    我剛剛也在Lynch的官網看到這3把琴,可是我比較好奇的是Lynch為什麼要設定多的那一條弦是high A而不是低音弦.....還有這把琴的弦是不是要特製啊,不然哪裡可以買的到呢?
     
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    岩石大哥們,我想到時連戰也不甘示弱
    拿著Zemaitis NANHU-Reissue Special Prototype Supreme Plus =LienZan= Model
    一把傳說中Zemaitis替他作的南胡連戰Model琴
    然後這篇就不知為何突然出現在灌水板:p

    七弦琴加在第一弦之前變High A?
    我不太敢把手指放上去了...
     
  8. rock99

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    朱力安又在這裡偷罵我
    我還是覺得7弦不是那麼好用
    你提到的那些人大部分時候還不是用六弦的!
    所以趕快叫你哥改買RG8670紅色的,如果真的不喜歡就送我吧!我會有點不好意思地收下來
    如果買RG8527就不用送我了
     
  9. Dragon

    Dragon 版主

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    George Van Eps (Father of the Seven String Guitar)
    Howard Alden
    Jimmy Bruno and Frank Vignola use Benny 7 (Guild/Benedetto)
    Wes Borland (ex-guitarist of Limp Bizkit) use Ibanez RG-7421 & AX-7221

    7 弦琴用的最廣和最早大概就算是 jazz players 吧 一大票 ...
     
  10. 大鬍子

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    我想這就是我跟朱力安合的來的原因之一,哈哈哈哈。
    我個人也偏好多弦琴,甚至鼓組與鍵盤我都偏好大件與多鍵的。
    我總覺得這是可能性的問題,音域更廣音樂的可能性越高。
     
  11. rock99

    rock99 New Member

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    我想,既然朱力安和大鬍子哥都這麼喜歡多弦的琴,那我建議最好買琵琶或豎琴,看看Ibanez有沒有出RG-琵琶或RG-豎琴
    洋人我不知,中國人的話,王昭君有用過RG-琵琶
     
  12. 大鬍子

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    岩石99老大∼王昭君我不知道,不過呂秀齡的官方網站說他是用Jackson SL-琵琶,還配上EMG 81 and 85。
     
  13. rock99

    rock99 New Member

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    嗯∼原來鬍子兄也知道呂秀玲,不知她是不是呂秀蓮的妹妹,可以確定的是她那把是1978年Jackson出場的custom shop QM top with pink modern Birds inlay不過她這把沒有搖座,王昭君的RG-琵琶是Edge pro大搖的

    我想我們繼續這樣討論,朱力安應該會很感謝我們的
     
  14. Jeff

    Jeff 吉他版主

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    最近接獲通報吉他版有人在大量澆灌,原來是在家埋頭苦幹劇本的岩石99老大....呵

    幫龍哥補充一下,Pizzarelli 父子 (Bucky/John) 有不少精彩演奏就是用七弦 Benedetto,可惜目前 Bob Benedetto 已經半退休了...
     
  15. rock99

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    傑夫
    我就是東西寫不出來快瘋了,所以就來鬧場啦!不鬧!不鬧了!我是還趕緊做正事要緊。
    鬍子兄!接下來靠你炒了,朱力安的場子可不能太冷啊!
     
  16. julian

    julian New Member

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    感謝99叔跟鬍子兄把場子炒得如此熱絡!!
    小弟認為這篇的主題可以改為"相聲接力"並改po到閒聊版。相聲藝術在兩位身上簡直是淋漓盡致,兩位打鼓彈吉他太可惜了,真是浪費人才!!

    JEMZAX主席,所以GL沒有在任何tour或是專輯裡面用過那些high A琴囉?

    潔膚大哥,可以多介紹一下Benedetto嗎?
     
  17. thunderbolt

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    Oh Benedetto, my dream guitar....
     
  18. ZOO

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    這輩子想都不敢想的琴
    太遙遠的等級了......
     
  19. julian

    julian New Member

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    Uli jon roth 7string 31fret

    Cannibal Corpse

    lots of death metal guitar player use 7str guitar !!
     

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